Sewincaster lines

[speycaster]

sewin caster lines

here you are fred that should do it [
www.wellardandscott.co.uk then go to fly fishing on the left hand side then products by name hit the ,s, and it should pop up
billyp

[WCB]

Fred if you want one or the set let me know and i will pick them up for you from W&S and send on foc.
I fished with one last night on the Taw and it was great for roll casting and one haul and flick type of casting.
There was a wicked bright moon last night and around 11.30 the temperature dropped and a mist came off the water so no fish.

Fred pm sent.

WCB

[tone-s]

If the last 15 feet of line is underwater (to varying depths) surely it all has to be dragged out first, presumably with a couple of roll casts? Isn't this a bit tiresome before every new cast?

I'm fairly new to all this, can a sink rate of 2 inches per second actually make that much difference to the depth of the fly, especially if the river has a good bit of flow? It may get down after a while, but not where it matters...?

Be gentle with me fellas!

[Teifi-Terrorist]

Hi Tone-S,

valid questions, so thanks for raising them.

The predicament of having to lift the sinking section out of the water is something that would happen on any line other than a floating line. However, it would be a lot easier on a sink-tip compared to a full sinker, due to there only being the 15ft etc. underwater, with that being gradually descending rather than all being deep, which, again, lends for easier lifting when the cast has reached its extremity. Indeed, after the cast has reached is extremity and you have finished the retrieve you rarely find that you have to roll cast the tip up etc. especially so on the intermediate tip.

A sink rate of 2 inches per second can definitely make a difference. It's surprising how long it takes to finish one drift at times, this may take some 20-30 seconds, or even more. Even getting a line that just cuts through the surface film can be enough on some nights.

If you have a good flow and need to drop the fly into a deep pot then chances are you wouldn't use a line that sinks at 2 inches a second. Having said that, you could, especially when you team it with some heavy flies. The angle of the cast also comes into play - if you knew a good spot and you wanted the line to fish deeper, then you would just change the angle and cast the line and flies further upstream and let it drift and sink until it hit the spot you wanted to fish, then the retrieve etc, can begin.

The secret is not to look at the sink rate as a hard rule, look at it and then vary the weight of the flies, that would hold you in better stead.

TT.

[Salarex]

Tone, I don't pretend to be an expert, but this is what I think I have picked up as a general rule from the experts on here - thought I would re-hash them so they can pick it over!

Go through the pool first of all with a surface line but not floating lure.

Go through it a second time with an intermediate

Again with a medium sinker and again with fast sink

So you search through the layers. The sewin will be at a specific layer in the water, depending on temperature, pressure, and god knows what esle Depending on the depth of the pool, you may wish to accentuate the depth variation by using flies of different weights.

Not clear on what stage you put on a floating fly, but would probably do it before putting on a different line as I am lazy - so htis is probably not a good idea.

[fredaevans]

Greatly appreciate, but single hander rod lines I don't need at this time.

Fred if you want one or the set let me know and i will pick them up for you from W&S and send on foc.
I fished with one last night on the Taw and it was great for roll casting and one haul and flick type of casting.
There was a wicked bright moon last night and around 11.30 the temperature dropped and a mist came off the water so no fish.

Fred pm sent.

WCB

Vast majority of my fishing is with 2-handers so my one handers see little actual on water time. But I greatly appreciate the kind offer.

Fred

[woodcockandsewin]

Fred,

I use the Teeny D and XD range on a double hander, (and they are as similar to sewincaster as I have used,) and find them nicer to use than a full sinker.

I have used sewincaster for last season and this, and am delighted with both the casting, control and catching caracteristics of them. (Must be time for a Campari and Cranberry!!)

W&S

[Teifi-Terrorist]

Totally agree, was watching W&S casting with one the other night, and he was getting at least half way across the river! Which seems to have doubled his casting distance, amazing! :}

TT. :>

[woodcockandsewin]

TT,

Are you referring to the lines or the Campari and Cranberry chasers?{;

W&S

[Salmonella]

Fred,

I use the Teeny D and XD range on a double hander, (and they are as similar to sewincaster as I have used,) and find them nicer to use than a full sinker.

I hate to pick another argument; but I think 'our friend' is talking bollox.:: :: ::


I have a Teeney XD-550 - It's a brute to cast; no way can it be compered to the 'sweet-casting' Sewincaster.



Ella

[Teifi-Terrorist]

TT,

Are you referring to the lines or the Campari and Cranberry chasers?{;

W&S

touché :@

TT.

[woodcockandsewin]

I hate to pick another argument; but I think 'our friend' is talking bollox.:: :: ::


I have a Teeney XD-550 - It's a brute to cast; no way can it be compered to the 'sweet-casting' Sewincaster.



Ella

Ella,

I have an XD500 which flies out on a 15' Norway, IMHO tailor made for spey casting as well as punching OH into the strongest of winds. It's hardly the finesse of single handed casting, but it creates the nearest comparison I have come across so far.

W&S

[Salmonella]

TT,

Are you referring to the lines or the Campari and Cranberry chasers?{;

W&S

I'd had far too much WKD blue yesterday:}

I really wish my laptop wouldn't switch on when I've been partying

Ella,

I have an XD500 which flies out on a 15' Norway, IMHO tailor made for spey casting as well as punching OH into the strongest of winds. It's hardly the finesse of single handed casting, but it creates the nearest comparison I have come across so far.

W&S

In the cold light of day; I can see the comparison.

Both our Jim Teeney lines have 9 ips sink rates:} :} :}

http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/teeny-lines.html

Your 500 having a 24' tip whilst my 550 has a 30' tip.
I've never really fished with it; having bought it as a "just in case line" for very high water.


Back to Sewincaster lines. Somehow or other, I managed to break/snap the line in the back welded loop when changing lines. I didn't put a lot of strain on it; a bit puzzling, but I may have trodden on it.
Does anyone know what the breaking strain on this running line should be?


Ella

[Teifi-Terrorist]

Back to Sewincaster lines. Somehow or other, I managed to break/snap the line in the back welded loop when changing lines. I didn't put a lot of strain on it; a bit puzzling, but I may have trodden on it.
Does anyone know what the breaking strain on this running line should be?

Ella

Bugger! not good news Ella ::

Which lines was it? I think the core on the sewincaster lines is 20lbs braid, with 30lbs mono on the clear sink-tip section. Don't quote me on that though! I think Illtyd' in Norway at the moment, but would happily update you/us when he returns.

TT.

[ACW]

Ella/PIB why not talk to Wellard and Scott they should put you rigth on the BS and possibly replace the line !|\